I want him to take all the snaps. He's a loser with a 2-22 career record and he is exactly what we need to flush this season down the drain and get a better QB in here next year. Don't want him whispering, don't want to see Hackenberg. There is absolutely no way McCown will light up anything except the opponents stats line of sacks, lowest passing yards, Most fumbles lost and most pick-sixes in a season. Well, Fitzpatrick might still claim that last title but McCown might challenge it.
I seem like a nice guy, and I am pretty smart too. That doesn't mean I should start for Jets. UNLEASH THE HACKEN
I have a question. Josh McCown has been in this league since dating back to 2002. Going on 15 years now. For 7 different teams (8th with the Jets). My question is this. Throughout his 14 year career and/or 7 different teams. How many times has Josh McCown been named the starter heading into a season (without an injury to their #1 QB)? So, why should the Jets of all teams, actually name him as our opening day starter come 2017? Makes zero sense to me. This guy is not a starter. Whatsoever. He's a career backup. A career journeyman. A career losing record of 18-42. He's lost 20 of his previous 22 games started over the past 3 years (2-20). No thank you. We. As a Franchise. Need to find our starting QB. The only ways to find out what our younger QB's are made up of, is to play and start one of either Petty or Hackenberg. Or if worse comes to worst; both (throughout the course of the season). Or draft a QB down the road for that matter. Maybe as early as 2018 if both Hack/Petty fail. But we will not find our future starting QB in a soon to be 38 year old McCown. That is fact. Come week 10-12. If both Petty and Hackenberg have lost the team while out of contension? That's when you begin to think 2018's NFL draft. And that's exactly when you throw McCown into the fire while feeding him to the wolves in order to complete and/or carry out his mop up duty as a career backup. Petty or Hackenberg must start 2017 come opening day. And McCown needs to be on the sidelines. Where he belongs. As the career backup in which he's always been. It's really as simple as that.
Agreed, if Maccagnans picks in the 3rd -7th rounds contribute each year and keep developing, this team will have great depth. Becoming a starter should not be the deciding factor as you can play more being a sub package player. This upcoming year should open up opportunities for many of our young players, including those drafted this year. Should Mac prove he can have success in the late rounds, trading down and adding picks can seriously load this team up on talent. I personally wouldn't be surprised if one or both of our late round CB's prove to be contributors. Newly signed Corey White is a 6' foot CB, who gladly likes to mentor young CB's. Guess we will see if this helps expedite the process some.
Sanchez 33-29 as Jets starter inc. 2 AFC championship games Tebow 10-6 as starter inc playoff win Matt Cassel 11-5, Grossman in the SB,etc... Philip Rivers being 4-12, 5-11 the last 2 years = Don't want him? It's a 53 man roster and W/L for a QB is at best a secondary stat. Hell we could of had Rodgers last year and still come out flat, have our secondary being torn to shreds and endd up no nearer to the playoffs then we were during the spawny fitzmagic year. I'll repeat that McCown isn't HoF, he's not even on the Manning Jr/Cam level and he's not going to suddenly be 'the guy' like Vinny. However in that lower bracket of Hoyers and McCoys.........he's serviceable, makes the throws, reads the coverage and cannot be mistaken as someone who perhaps we can perform a career recovery on (i.e RGIII, Kaep). Would of preferred we got him a touch cheaper at around 4-5M but he is what he is and that is a QB who can start and give us a decent level of play IF we don't have any other option. If we (please dear god) do have another option in one of our young guns stepping up then he can at least play the 'mentor' role and more importantly we won't be screaming for his introduction to save us if/when one of Petty/Hack makes a rookie error that stalls the drive or turns the ball over. My view remains that if Petty/Hack can show they are at or a gnats wing beneath his level then they start. If they are not then they are trash and you may as well cut Petty and hope Hack can make use of the extra snaps behind McCown to at least get in a position to compete next pre-season against whoever we draft.
Ok, so McCown out. Done. Over. Stick a fork in him. How good will Hack have to do for Macc NOT to draft a QB next year? 10-6? 8-8? 20TDs 10ints? 4000 yards? No mater how good Hack does, even going 12-4 by some miracle, we will still have decent QBs available when we pick. So, how 'good' would you want to see Hack do to NOT take a QB???????
How could you even use Philip Rivers as an example of either talking up and/or making a case for Josh freaking McCown as our 2017 starter? Let's be a little real here (while talking Josh McCown). ● Philip Rivers (drafted 4th overall) is a career winning Quarterback. A proven NFL starter with a winning record of 97-79. An elite career QB Rating of 94.7. 6x Pro-Bowler. 22 4th Quarter Comebacks. 4 postseason wins and 11 years as an NFL starter (with only 3 seasons of losing records). Winning records of 14-2, 11-5, 13-3, 9-7, 9-7 & 9-7 etc, etc. ● Josh McCown (drafted 81st ovetall) on the other hand is a career losing Quarterback. A career NFL backup with a career losing record of 18-42. A mediocre career QB Rating of only 78.2. 0x Pro-Bowler. Only 5 4th Quarter Comebacks. 0 postseason wins and with 14 years in the league has only managed 1 year of above .500 play (3-2) compared to 6 years of losing records (1-2, 6-7, 2-7, 1-10, 1-7 & 0-3) etc, etc. I can go on & on. I'm sorry but Josh McCown's name does not even belong in the same sentense as that of a Philip Rivers. Not when you've been in this league for 15 year's it's not. McCown is a career journeyman on the verge of turning 38 years old. He is who he is. Which is a career backup and at the age of 38 he's never been anything more. He's now on his 10th NFL team and has yet to stick with a single team (Arizona, Detroit, Oakland, Miami, Carolina, San Fran, Chicago, Tampa Bay, Cleveland and (now) New York). He even played for the Hartford Colonials back in 2010 (after being drafted into the NFL back in 2002) and stunk up the joint. Teams like Detroit & Carolina never even gave him a single spot start. 10-12 for Arizona. 2-7 for Oakland. 1-10 for Tampa. 1-10 for Cleveland. Does he deserve some type of praise for actually going one game above .500 (4-3) for Chicago from 2011-2013? Because throughout the previous 3 seasons of 2014, 2015 & 2016 he's gone 2-20 over his past 22 starts. You see. QB talents like Philip Rivers has at least given his coaches a chance to stick around. Rivers has given his GM's chances to build a team around the QB position over the years. Rivers has won way more often than he's lost. McCown on the other hand? He's never been a solution. He's actually always been a part of the problem. Apples to Oranges. I disagree. Strongly. During the 2015 season we had decent QB play out of Fitzpatrick. And in return, that team was knocking at the door until week 17 against Buffalo. Which is when Fitzpatrick threw our playoff hopes out the window during a win and you're in situation while throwing the game away (3 INT's during a 5 point loss). But up until that point, Todd Bowles had that team competing. Last year's 2016 team had no chance because of Fitzpatrick's awful play. A completion percentage of only 56.6%. Only 12 TD's compared to 17 INT's. A laughing stock QB Rating of 69.6. He sucked. Which is why as a team we only went 3-8 under Shitztragic. It's a team game but he was our biggest problem @ QB and gave our defense no chance to compete. By the time Geno & Petty had a chance that team already checked out. Fitz ruined the season from the start. Aaron Rodgers on the other hand would have at least gave Bowles and our defense a fighting chance to compete. Last season Rodgers went 10-6 on a struggling team but still put up awesome numbers. He carried his team. As he would've done with NY. QB Rating of 104.2. Completion percentage of 65.7%. 40 TD's compared to only 7 INT's. You see. Rodgers is a great QB. He (unlike McCown who's part of the problem) is a part of the solution. Once again. Apples to Oranges. But you see. He's not even serviceable. Not if you're looking to win at least. He's a career loser. A career backup QB. Who deserves to be on the bench. Backing up either of Hackenberg or Petty. The only service he's worth is come weeks 10-12 if both Hack & Petty fail while the team has mentally checked out. Then. And only then do you put in McCown. In order to get beat up, complete the 2017 mop up work and solidify a top two draft pick for 2018's NFL draft (just as he's always done). McCown's name should be mentioned with the likes of Kellen Clemens. Geno Smith. Mark Sanchez. EJ Manuel. Derek Anderson. Matt Barkley and Blaine Gabbert's of the world. But never mentioned within the same topic as the likes of an Eli Manning, Cam Newton and Philip Rivers. Even Brian Hoyer is much, much better than a 38 year old McCown. But to actually name Josh McCown as 2017's opening day starter (without injuries to Hack/Petty) is a laughing stock joke. I need to see what Hackenberg and Petty are made up of. I couldn't care less about watching a career losing backup journeyman QB... who's gone 2-20 during his previous 3 years (22 starts).... attempt to play the QB position while only being a couple of months away from retiring at the age of 38. I'd much rather see Hack bust flat on his face before watching the shit show known as "38 year old Josh McCown".
I'm saying win-loss isn't an indicator of wheter a QB is any good. it's a stat to judge the likes of Mac and bowles by. We all know that Rivers is a much better QB then McCown and frankly anyone else we've had going back to Chad/Favre but it would be pointless having him on our roster right now as we're a crappy team that is in full rebuild and he wouldn't be interested in coming into that situation anymore then Romo would've. Considering where we are at and the likely QBs we could of recruited or even retained - A backup/limited starter level QB who is certainly NOT the future (even if he takes us to the big game we know we still need to replace him) and doesn't take the limelight or demand by reputation an almost guaranteed starting slot is really the ideal for us at this time. He is currently the best QB we have on the roster but not so far ahead that a third-year, starting experience Petty or a round 2 wunderkid couldn't conceivably get close by the end of pre-season. I'm interested in how it will play out and hope one of the kids gets close enough because if they can't then I really can't see any point to Petty hanging around or have much faith in Hack being in contention next year.
Real nice guy and will be a good teacher for Hack & Petty, but if he's on the field, it's a waste of time and an indication that our 2 young QB's are no good.
