Not apples to oranges. 2 players hold camps. One has a player bail and learns from his experience the other commits assault. May not be the same type of apples but they are both apples.
So you think Anthony Becht and IK are in the same fruit group? And we don't know when Becht's first camp bailing happened and by whom. If Becht had 3 camps under his belt and then some B-lister bailed on him he might have had an easier lesson to learn. If Becht's very first camp had Chad Pennington bail, he might have been a tad miffed. Not enough to punch him, but he might not be so cavalier with his attitude if his experience was similar to IKs. Those two guys couldn't be more different. _
So we need another 6th round draft pick to get blown off by a 3rd year qb drafted in the 2nd round who was tentatively scheduled to start the season in order to compare reactions? What about the races of the players? Do they need to be exact also?
Has the bold part been confirmed? Or is that just based on Ryan Clark talking about IK's version of the story and nobody else saying otherwise? It seems like there is far more speculation about this story than there are actual facts.
Why does anyone take Brandon Marshall's opinion seriously. This guy has a rap sheet of his own, and his view of right or wrong is jaded at best.
The same way I get you a Geno supporter to the point you are almost blind to all the facts. You are only speaking facts that support your story nothing more nothing less. Aren't you the guy who last yr tried to compare Geno's stats with Peyton's. Look the kid made horrible choices this is just one of the many. You can not argue the fact he f'd up and raised the issue till the point it was an argument. Team leaders do not do that. Team leaders do not reportedly taunt teammates and say what are you going to do about it? A team leader right or wrong calms the situation. He lost the locker room, right now you have Marshall who came out for him 1 story let's say versus how many reports? Geno needs to sit it may be the best thing for him long and short term. Frankly if he never suits up for the Jets I would be just as happy if we are winning. We have already proved we can loose with and because of him. Everyone thinks he made some leap in playing because of mini camp and one week of summer camp. Then he goes all bone headed and gets into it with IK right or wrong it shows poor judgment esp. for someone who made that big leap. Your Pissed because Geno is Sanchez 2.0 and if you ran Sanchez out of town for turnovers and bad PLay Geno just raised the stakes with his jaw breaking and it is looking like he is a poor teammate. I would think players would have piled on IK if he was wrong or support Geno right when it happened. All I heard was Ik's and reporters side. And Revis saying it was both of them and the coach saying it takes two to tango. Then a week after the indecent one player comes out in defense of Geno. Where was he last week? No-one is excusing IK he deserved what he got, but people are going light on Geno as the coach said it takes two tango
very little has been 'confirmed'. Someone (Bowles?) said IK sent someone to the airport to pick up Geno and waited several hours with Geno being a no show. Sounds like Geno never called, just left IK at his event with everyone asking him "Where's Geno?????". IK had no answer, just pissed.
Actually they need to be the exact same DNA. No, but you have to look at the individuals and the circumstances to put what occurred in context. Folks love to compare what Jeter would have done in a situation--"Derek Jeter wouldn't have done that" or "Jeter would have handled that with more class" but that's a silly comparison. There was Jeter and everyone else. I don't think Anthony Becht and IK are anywhere near the same people--and we have no idea how long it took Becht to learn his lesson. Again, not defending IK but what Becht would have done is irrelevant because they aren't them same person and what occurred might not have been anywhere near analogous. And I don't beleive the issue was about $600--I think IK was pissed at Geno for bailing on him. He was the headliner in what was likely his first football camp in his hometown. That must have been a massive embarrassment for him in front of his community. No excuse for punching him, but I don't think this would have been his reaction if it were his 5th camp and Greg McElroy bailed on him. _
Totally taking the Smith angle out of this, doesn't it seem like Marshall does a lot of talking to the media? Criticizing Cutler and the Bears. Hey I am sure he has his opinions and all that. But what was the point of that? Now he wants to be what some kind of veteran spokesman for the Jet players? He hasn't even played a single play that counts. He should just be saying how happy he is to be with the team and that Bowles knows what's best in running the team. When he plays in a real game he can talk about that. Until then...
Nice to see Geno get some support but the only who has any value is Decker. And they didn't say they saw the situation ( If they did why didn't help out their bud??). Frankly this changes nothing. Geno remains the imbecile who didn't use leadership common sense.
It truly is amazing. All we have been hearing from TGG is that because no one spoke out for Geno and IK had his friends spew out some propaganda that it must be Geno is an ass, not a leader etc. because it team mate hate him, want him gone blah, blah, blah. Now, some Jets come out and say Geno really did not do anything - it doesn't mean shit, even though one of the biggest put downs on Geno's character was no one came out on his side according to some posters. Translation - the Geno hate on this board is much stronger than the actual support of the team.
Not sure this is the thread for this, but is there anyone who wouldnt be more comfortable with our qb situation with sanchez on this roster over either geno or fitz?
I am going to ask show me where you said this because I went through some of the posts a from a few different threads. Found it..........besides you saying Fitz has never been to the playoffs (fair but I would like to use the Geno defense and say his teams sucked) The only thing I see that is none pro Geno. The only way Geno should start this yr is due to injury or if he wins back the locker room. I would have expected more then 3 players to come out after 1 week to defend him. If Brandon saw this why didn't he step in? I am going to play devil's advocate what if Marshall missed when Geno was waving his finger around?I am sorry I am playing your game back at you. I will go with Revis and the coaches version why? because it is the most unbiased version and states the truth it takes two people to fight. What you refuse to believe or accept is that Geno is not the innocent victim you and several other people make him out to be. No-one has defended IK and he got what he deserved. Did Geno deserve to get his jaw broken no but he failed a a leader by letting it get to the point where there was even a chance of a fight. Why don't you and the Geno lovers even to refuse to accept this simple logic? The simple test is for you to act like Geno did reportedly and see how people react. I know for a fact if he was in the Army and acted like he reportedly did there would be a line waiting to set him straight. I found the exchange where you said if he was waving a finger in IK's face.. but here is the point you don't want to hear why did Geno let it get to that point the post chris5533 said: ↑ You want to make a case that smith is some victim and you see the lack of true support as overblown. Ok, I'm just giving you my opinion and I think it's a huge deal.. Who knows, time will tell I guess Geno007- I'm not making anybody anything. I just want to hear from someone who saw it. I also said if Geno did put his fingers in IK face I don't blame him for punching him and yes it on Geno. the below exchange between you and Jstokes JStokes said: ↑ For all we know? Or for all you care to postulate. Dude, you play the part but you're smarter than that. Geno007 _ My point is so much shit has been said we don't know what really happen.
I've said that if Geno did put his fingers in his face I don't blame IK for punching him. I've said that I don't know how many times. Does that sound like a man supporting Geno? All I want to see is where somebody puts there name on it saying Geno put his fingers in his face. I'm not one of these pussy asses saying no matter what Geno should had not been punched. If he put his fingers in his face he deserved to get his jaw broken.
Well the fact it's ALMOST A WEEK LATER that someone finally came out in support for Geno renders it suspicious. It took an entire week for Marshall to speak out and it's not like the Jets kept him in a bubble before then. It makes it look politically motivated as opposed to genuine.
