Oh well we missed this , this year

Discussion in 'Tebowmania' started by CowboysFan, Dec 21, 2012.

  1. phaytal

    phaytal New Member

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    Sorry, but you are very, very wrong. The Pouncey brothers and Percy Harvin are the best players UF has had in recent times, as well as the best players to join the NFL from the Tebow era. Lets not forget Marcus Gilbert and Phil Trautwein either. Absolute rock stars.

    I mean let's be honest here Backup QB. Tebow played behind the best offensive line in college football history. Most of his offensive linemen are currently dominating in the NFL. I''d kill to have the Pouncey brothers on the Broncos squad.

    Yeah, I'm a UF alum too. The difference is is that I wasn't sucked in to the Tebow hysteria. He showed his true colors in the 2010 BCS Championship game, after he lost all the weapons the bailed him out the year prior. He was curb stomped by the Tide even though the Gators had the far superior team.

    Urban Meyer, and the talent that surrounded him made Tebow the legend that he is. It's blatantly obvious now that pretty much any physical QB could have won with that team. I'd so far as to say the Cam Newton would have won 2 titles and 2 Heismans on those teams.

    Tebow hit the gene lottery as far as his physicality goes, but thats not enough in the big boys league.
     
  2. Backup QB

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    You realize that 2009 team you referenced in which Tebow showed his true colors went 13-1 with a Sugar Bowl win, right? The best team does not always win every game. Otherwise, they don't even need to play the game then. Just hand the better team the win and let everybody go home.

    And you must be joking to say that the Pounceys or Harvin was UF's best football player in recent history. Good as they were, they are not in the conversation of G.O.A.T. college football player. Tebow is.

    I would argue that you are sucked into the hysteria, just on the opposite side.
     
  3. danangmarine68

    danangmarine68 New Member

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    Now I see, you had money on the SEC championship game that year and now you blame Tebow for your loss. Hurt little feelings there Fartal. What else would explain your vendetta for the past 3 years? Unrequited love?

    SF
     
  4. phaytal

    phaytal New Member

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    Put down the kool aid for a second.

    Tebow was manhandled by the Tide in the '09 SEC Championship game. I dare you to deny that. Bama abused him. He was predictable, and without his savior, Percy Harvin.

    Percy Harvin is currently one of the most feared athletes in the NFL, at the ripe old age of 24. He's also the guy that made a living making circus catches throughout his entire career at UF, beating single coverages, and gift wrapping Tebow with wide open looks. UF's Option was so devastating, that Tebow had wide open looks to Harvin and Murphy for the majority of his career. Every wonder why Tebow's college passing stats are leaps and bounds above the bed-shitting NFL Tebow? Welp, there ya go.

    Harvin is the best receiver to ever come out of UF, next to Ike Hillard. And Hillard will be a distant memory if Harvin can put together a lasting career. In 4 years Harvin has racked up more than 1/2 of Ike's career receptions, and Ike was in the league for 12 years. Even more impressive, is that he racked up almost 90 catches during Ponder's rookie year.

    So please, spare me the GOAT bullshit. Tebow's UF teams dominated because they had NFL caliber talent on both sides of the ball. He manhandled with his run game because he ran behind the greatest O-Line ever assembled in the history of the NCAA, and was bigger than most linebackers that he faced. He racked up crazy passing stats because he had ridiculous weapons that never saw double coverage due UF's opponents having to stack 8 or 9 in the box.

    Now how about you head back to Tebow cock-sucking central, and quit embarrassing yourself.
     
  5. phaytal

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    Though I do put money on football quite often, I never bet on my team, whether it be UF or Denver. You can't let emotions interfere with gambling.

    Also, resorting to name calling is the epitome of hurt feelings. It's funny to me that as righteous as you've protrayed yourself as, with your military background and all, you're just a tool like the rest of Tebow town.

    Pot meet kettle, fuck-o.
     
  6. phaytal

    phaytal New Member

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    To address this idiotic statement in particular, the 2009 Gators beat 1 ranked team; LSU, who finished the season with a gift wrapped #17 ranking. Yep, you read that right, 1 ranked team.

    They didn't play a single other ranked team. Couple that with the fact that the BCS religiously panders to the SEC, namely due to the $2.25 billion contract that ESPN has with the SEC.

    Fun fact: The Big East and the PAC-12 both have winning records in heads up play against the SEC. That includes both regular season and bowl games.
     
  7. Demosthenes9

    Demosthenes9 Well-Known Member

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    You've trotted this lie out before Phaytal and just as you were proven to be a liar then, you are a liar now.

    In 2009, Florida played against 3 teams ranked in the Top 5 and they beat 2 of those teams.
     
  8. danangmarine68

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    Never portrayed myself as righteous. I'm just a dumb old jarhead from Florida. I do refrain from dropping "F" Bombs on the internet due to the fact that these are open forums. I'm just getting into the name calling as I'm learning from a master, that being yourself. So if you feel I have overstepped my bounds then perhaps a little introspection on your part is warranted. You have peppered these forums calling people dumb, idiots, and other more colorful colloquialisms. I'm not above climbing down into the pigstye that you and Jetsetter34 have created here in order to swap insults. I will however neither bend nor outright falsify information to further my arguments.

    SF
     
  9. Backup QB

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    Lol.

    I said the team went 13-1 and won the Sugar Bowl without any opinion whatsoever and you said it was an idiotic statement.

    Here's another idiotic statement... 1+1=2.
     
  10. Backup QB

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    My answer is... So what?

    Tebow had a bad game in a one-loss season to the eventual National Champions of that year and you think that is noteworthy. Who is drinking kool-aid. In phaytal's world, Tebow wasn't even good in college. In the real world, everyone knows he was one of the G.O.A.T. college players.
     
  11. phaytal

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    They beat a not so good LSU team in the regular season before getting curb stomped by Bama. That is where the season ended as far as I'm concerned.

    The consolation prize was a date with an over ranked Cincy team.
     
  12. phaytal

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    I've said all along that Tebow was a great college player, just not the greatest.
     
  13. Demosthenes9

    Demosthenes9 Well-Known Member

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    Bullshit. Season included the Sugar Bowl against Cincy. That makes you a LIAR just like you were last time you tried to pull this shit and make the same claims.
     
  14. JFjets

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    Looks like phaytal got an early Christmas present of crack cocaine in his stocking, because he is clearly high.

    lol.
     
  15. phaytal

    phaytal New Member

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    :lol:

    Just how short was the bus you rode to school as a kid?
     
  16. VanderbiltJets

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    Going to a small college (especially compared to UF) and knowing most of the players personally I just can't/don't understand the "support my college's players" mentality (it's foreign to me). Cutler being the example of he was legit at Vandy (probably our best football player ever) but he's a dick so screw him.

    In short, I can't comprehend it and I'm not sure whether I agree with it or not.
     
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  17. JFjets

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    Percy Harvin was such an integral part of Tebow's success at Florida that he caught exactly 10% of Tebow's passes as a starter, and a whopping 13% of Tebow's TD passes as a starter.

    Louis Murphy was such an integral part of Tebow's success at Florida that he caught exactly 8% of Tebow's passes as a starter, and a whopping 14% of Tebow's TD passes as a starter.

    In fact, Tebow had such a stellar, NFL caliber receiver/tight end corps, that 64% of his TD passes as a starter were to receivers and tight ends who aren't even starters in the NFL! :rofl::rofl2:

    So much for the argument that Tebow only looked like a good passer at Florida because he had a whole roster full of NFL star wide receivers and tight ends.

    As for Tebow's rushing dominance, he had 49 TD's in 3 years as a starter (57 if you include his freshman year), same as Herschel Walker. But Tebow did it in 411 less attempts. Tebow had 13 more Rushing TD's as a starter than Emmit Smith. In 97 less attempts. That must be because of his great offensive line, huh? :rofl:

    Oh yeah, one more thing: Percy Harvin, - "the best receiver to ever come out of UF, next to Ike Hillard" were your words - is tied (with 5 other guys) for 18th place on the list of Florida receivers with the most career TD receptions. And 11 of the guys in front of him on the list caught more TD's than him with less overall receptions. Including Ike Hilliard, who had more than double the receiving TD's Harvin did, and did it with less overall receptions.

    Was Percy Harvin a great college receiver? Absolutely. The best in Florida history, after Ike Hilliard? Ummm, no.

    Next time you get a hankering to post a bunch more anti-Tebow opinions, you might want to make sure your argument can stand up to the facts. Of course, that hasn't ever stopped you before....
     
  18. deathstar

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    Just like Junc, living in the past...
     
  19. phaytal

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    Why do you quote college stats like they still mean something?

    Tim Tebow will soon be an unemployed 3rd string quarterback, and Percy Harvin is one of the most dangerous players in the entire league.

    :shrug:

    By the way, when someone says 'the best player to ever come out of a school', they are referring to what they have accomplished in the NFL, not what they did in the minors.
     
  20. danangmarine68

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    Well you did let yourself open in post #44. As I recall you were the one spouting off about all of the great NFL caliber players on the 09 team. Specifically the last paragraph. If you don't want to be contradicted then research your statements. You can't have it both ways, if you bend the facts then expect to be corrected.
     

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