Again, with his speed, I'd like to see him used like Gonzalez, who isn't used as a prototypical slot receiver. However, you are right that Stuckey is a better fit as your usual slot receiver.
I'll give some thoughts... So...You think just because Clowney has some speed and actually caught ONE pass all of last year for 20+ yards, that he can be our Coles and actually fill the shoes as our asnwer for a top wideout? Get real. If thats the case, every draft pick with speed and potential could be a #1 WR for the Jets. This kid gotta show me something on Sundays before I EVER compare him to Coles. Just because the kid has some potential at the wideout postion, doesn't mean the Jets dont need a WR during the draft, and it would be FOOLISH for the Jets front office to pass up on WR's such as Nicks, Macklin and Harvin JUST BECAUSE this Clowney guy has speed, potential and actually made one nice play all of last year...Foolish isn't the word. So yeah...The recent talk on this board about drafting a WR @ 17 actually makes perfect sense. I would LOVE for Clowney to turn into the next Randy Moss, Jerry Rice or even Steve Smith, I would LOVE it...But the fact of the matter is this, other than Cotchery as our #1 WR and Stucky as a potential slot WR...The Jets still have alot of question marks surrounding the #2 WR position and what if one of these guys outta Cotch, Stucky or Clowney goes down due to an injury in 09? Then what? Line up Brad Smith as an every down WR? No thanks.
if you can guess how many contradictions are in TBJF's post.....you win a tootsie roll.....it's a little old, and it's been in my pocket for about 2 weeks....but it's still a prize.
I still don't like any of the recievers in this years draft. All of them remind me of last years crop of WR's. I would rather trade down. If we stayed at #17 I think we should certainly go defense, possibly RB. Percy Harvin would be the only WR I would give the benefit of the doubt, I would hate anyone else outside of that. Exception - Maclin.
Do you HIGHJACK EVERY THREAD with insults towards "TBJF85"? Everyone....This is getting funny...Just go look @ the Ultimate Trash Talking forum...It's FULL of "Attacks" from this clown...And now he's been brining it to the main forum with just about each and every post? What ever happened to that HIGHJACKING rule anyway? Because thats all he's been doing :rofl:
Because he's not an over the middle take a hit while catching the ball type of receiver. He's not a quick/shifty guy that's going to make you miss in space. From what I've read this is why he failed in GB, they tried to force him into that role and it's not who he is. He's a burner who needs space on the outside to get separation and use his top end speed.
Hmm...hadn't read that about GB, but I can see it. I'm just not sure there's much to him but his speed, then. Guess I will have to just hope so.
I still can't believe he didn't get more chances last season....I mean could he have done anything more in pre-season? I'm not saying he is going to be our no.2 guy or not. But he WAS making fools out of other teams backups and that is what you want to see for someone with a possible starting role. Hopefully he can stay injury free and make a serious push for that spot. That being said, with Clowney and Stuckey having some injury history WR is still a priority for me in Day 1 in the draft....
There is something to be said when the CS and FO have been documented to be high on a backup player. Clowney is a guy they've gone on record wanting to do well. I'd like to see the kid do well because when interviewed he's comes off as hell bent on being a starter. Not everyone comes off that way in the media. I'm pulling for the kid, but I don't know if he's going to step on the field and be a monster... there is a learning curve involved.
The morw I look at our WR the more I think we'll go QB or DE in the first and WR or RB in the second according to the value available... I would very much like Robiskie in round 2 or maybe even Barden... i have faith in our organization though... let's wait and see.
+1 I envision Clowney being the guy who runs the "go route" and creates separation from the opposing secondary. His role isn't to go over the middle, take hits and create YAC...like say an Anquan Boldin or Wes Welker. Clowney is only 188lbs....not saying he's made of glass...but he wouldn't last too long taking hits over the middle on a routinely basis.
Weren't you the one who said something like... "I think David Clowney deserves a shot to fill Coles' shoes. He's young, fast...and with Ellard's coaching...could be our answer for a top wideout. Any thoughts?" Then you state how Clowney may not be suited for a role that requires him to go over the middle, take hits and create YAC? (Something that Coles made a living off of, you make no sense guy) Well I got news for you...If your NUMBER ONE WR cant do all of the above, well then...Guess what? He's not much of a #1 threat to opposing D's now is he? If anything, Cotchery is the man for the #1 spot...NOT a Clowney type of WR.
I said Clowney has a shot to fill the "burner" role on the team....and is suited to play the outside. Coles used to be one of our "outside threats"...so yeah, he'd be arbitrarily filling one of Coles' roles. Coles also went over the middle....Clowney's physical makeup isn't suited to handle that type of workload. Do us a favor.....take some chicken feed....and go feed your girlfriend or something. Quit polluting this thread....hell...quit polluting this forum for that matter. You're starting to really embarrass yourself.
that is exactly why i want to see a WR takin in the 1st or 2nd round.. i either want Britt at 6-3 or DHB at 6-2... give whoever our quarterback is a nice big target to throw to..
I agree with the idea of giving whoever the new (and inevitably young) QB is a big target to throw to, but I don't know if Britt or DHB are really worth it. I'm intrigued by the possibility of Barden in the the 3rd or 4th. He may not have played against the same level of competition as Britt or DHB, but he certainly has the size to be a potential big threat - especially in the red zone.
you're a classic case of misinterpreting everything, and then applying no logic or common football knowledge to your debates. the kid can be a top wideout and not have to go over the middle... when do you see the Moss wideouts, Chad Johnson, Marques Colston, Javon Walker in his prime, or Lee Evans go over the middle time and time again? I've never seen arguments so weak... I'm not even trying to bash you anymore - I hope you're learning something at the very least.
No...You said something like... "Personally, I think David Clowney deserves a shot to fill Coles' shoes" (Which means he deserves a shot @ becoming the Jets #1 WR which wont happen anytime soon because Cotchery has already earned that role) You know what that means right? If Clowney's physical makesup isn't suited to handle that type of workload, guess what? Then he will never be the #1 WR that Coles was for the Jets. Just because I dont agree with you, that means im "Polluting this thread"? You cant deal with the fact that I post on theganggreen.com? Well then dont visit this site anymore Rookie. I'm starting to embarrass myself? Really? Sorry guy...I'm not sure about you, but I know about me...And I'm not one to get "Embarrassed" over the internet, it's called actually having a social life AWAY from the computer. One thing about the Ganggreen rookie...Not EVERYONE is going to agree with what you have to say, and thinking Clowney (A kid with only 1 career catch) could fill the shoes of Coles was out right funny to me. If you dont have thick skin around here...You wont last rookie.
^ you act like Coles was Torry Holt for the Jets. Coles was good, but he wasn't an elite receiver. He can be replaced.
