Decker's total cap hit is $8.75 million. If we cut him, we take a $3 million dead money hit, but save $5.75 million against the cap. Conversely, if we cut Marshall, there is no dead money hit, and we save $7.5 million.
JETS JUST BROUGHT up 2 practice squad LBs and said bye bye to a TE and put Henderson on the inactive list
You're right. It will be interesting to see what the Jets decide to do. Will they opt to keep both (I don't see how they can cap-wise) or if only one, which one will they keep? Marshall's obviously the better talent, but drops too many passes. For some people's tastes, Marshall is also too out-spoken. Decker OTOH, is quieter, I think possibly a better teammate, but there are the obvious health concerns. Will both his hip and shoulder completely heal? If so, when? What kind of shape will he be in when OTAs and mini-camp begin? Will he have to miss TC, preseason or even regular season games? It could also come down to money and cap space.
Totally agree with you on not cutting Decker. Those who want to cut him must not have noticed our record since he went down (0-4). He is good veteran clutch performer. Compare Brandon Marshall, a great talent who saved us last year but now apparently needs to talk public /weigh in on everything not related to football; He would have fewer drops if he wasn't contemplating his next public statement on the social issue of the day. OK, my suggestions after this year: Trade Sheldon--we needs picks and he is our only movable part in a GLUT of DL Cut Revis (don't restructure--and for those who want to move him to safety watch his attempted tackle of Johnson on the TD run) Cut Fitzpatrick, Breno, clady , Harris (long in the tooth), gilchrist and my usual advice --use a high pick or two on some OL, damn it--Emmitt Smith/Jim Brown could not run behind our piece of crap OL
It wouldn't be crazy I think to see both of them cut. You pick up a good free agent WR and pair them with Enunwa, Peake, and Anderson. I wouldn't say it would be the worst receiver corps in the world, but that should free up some money for getting a decent O lineman.
Enuwa, Peake, and Anderson are for real. We need a fourth Beetle but do not need to overpay Marshall or Decker next year.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say it, we should have traded wilkerson or let him walk. Richardson is the better player. It becomes more apparent every week. And he likely would have been cheaper too. Even letting wilk walk we'd have more cap room and a 3rd round comp pick in the 2017 draft. Now were gonna have to move richardson instead
Nope not necessarily. Jets don't have to pay anyone major for a few seasons. Once they fix Revis, Harris and other contracts they should be able to resign Sheldon after 2017. Mo's contract is fully guaranteed through 2 seasons, they can escape after 2017 if they need to. They can tag Richardson next season, and allow him to play under that tag. It will play itself out in the end. 2 of the 3 will remain.
NFL Drops Leaders Rank Player Pos Team Receptions Drops Targets Targets % Drop % 1 Brandon Marshall WR NYJ 30 5 68 44.1% 7.4% Officially 5, I counted at least 5 more, that's $950k/drop
next year richardson is due 8 million but no dead money if we trade him. as it stands now we are 2.2 million over the cap. and one would have to think we need to improve out o-line, secondary, TE, and QB situation. Looking at how we can save money 1) Revis - doubt it, 1st off he won't restructure he's too greedy for that. If we cut him it's 8 million in dead cap and we save 7.3 million which we'd have to use a large portion of the 7.3 for a replacement CB. we are already thin at the position. williams needs to be resigned still as well. besides those 2 we have rookie burris and skrine. We need to use our high picks on offense we can't afford to take another CB high in the draft. I don't see anything happening with revis 2) Clady - is due 10.5 mil but only .5 is guaranteed. we can save 10 million by cutting him but again leaves a big hole on an already weak o-line. He's played well enough and is still not to old. i could see us giving him an extension to lower his cap for 2017 and keep him around for 3-4 more years. We should be able to save a few million 3) Mangold - 9 million none guaranteed. we could cut him and he's getting old, but again the o-line is weak, he is our captain and a career jet. I can't see us getting rid of him, even if his play is declining. He may be willing to take a small paycut though 4) Decker - 8.75 mil, we can save 5.75 if we cut him. This is very possible. he's over 30 now will be coming off a hip and shoulder injury and may not even be ready to play opening day 2017. plus we hit the jackpot on young WRs. peake, marshall, anderson, and enunwa all look ready to step up. espcially enunwa who's playing very well filling in for decker right now 5) Marshall and harris 7.5 and 6.5 mil respectively - no dead money and could save 14 million by releasing them. the thing is both are still playing well and are veteran leaders. marshall is probably more expendable because we have some promising young WRs. LB we need a veteran leader out there and harris is the captain of the defense. and we have no idea whats up with henderson.
1) No restructure, he needs a pay-cut. Yesterday was his best day in terms of coverage, but his tackling has been sub-par and I don't want him anywhere near the FS position. Pay-cut or be cut. We need to draft and pick-up maybe 2 or 3 cbs via FA / Draft. Gotta get younger and faster on the outside. Something will happen with his contract. Just like the Jets wanted Brick to take one, so will Revis. If Revis is gone, then oh well. 2) Clady, they could find a way to keep him under a smaller figure. I think they keep it as is. 3) Keep as is, maybe he will take a pay-cut but I won't cut his contract right away. Unless he wants to add another year to his deal and Jets can restructure. 4) Cut, he won't be playing this coming season. Career in jeopardy 5) David Harris can come back at a much smaller cap #, but as far as I am concerned he will not be making much. Marshall could potentially be cut as well. I think we are stuck with Buster Skrine unfortunately urgh. Don't forget Breno, he is good as gone. Will open up close to 5M. Marshall and Decker will be tough decisions no doubt. I think everything is doable.
Awful, I wonder if the Jets would be OK with Enunwa / Rookie? / Anderson / Marshall / Peake / ASJ as options next year? Decker and Marshall could both be gone.
Not a Marshall fan, he'd have 0 drops if he caught the ball in his big mouth....rather see a kid get his chance and keep Decker
Instead of cutting Marshall and Harris next year you could probably get something for them before the trade deadline this year. It wouldn't be fair value, but that's better then cutting them for nothing + dead cap money.
1) I just don't see us saving money. I doubt he takes a pay cut (i hope he proves me wrong though) so if we cut him he still costs us 8 million. If we use the saved money 7.3 mil and sign a decent CB then we basically save nothing and downgrade the position. It won't help us at all in 2017. it helps for 2018 and 2019, but we can cut him in 2018 instead and save 9 mil and only have 1 mil in dead money. financially it makes more sense to keep him in 2017. I don't see us doing anything with revis outside of that I don't disagree with anything you said except skrine. he's cheap, young, and playing well. he's only made 8 million total for 2016 and 2017. 4 mil a year for a solid nickel back is a good deal. and he's been starting for us and playing better then all our other CBs including revis. even at 8.5 mil a year in 2018 and 2019 he's worth it. at 6.25 mil a year over 4 years thats a bargain IMO and he'll still be under 30 by the time the contract ends. Breno is gone for sure. ID why we don't just cut him now. he's costing us 5.6 million and both qvale and ijalana have played better. we should release him with an injury settlement IMO and roll over the saved cap space to next year cause we need it
There are a couple of articles on The Star Ledger today that I think could, and perhaps should, have some bearing on things. One is http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2016/10/why_jets_brandon_marshall_still_isnt_worried_about.html In this article, Marshall says he know that the is always trying to make a big play on every play and so takes his eye off the ball and winds up dropping passes. He says that he always drops around 10 passes a year and it doesn't bother him. Well, it certainly bothers me. IMO that's an absurd attitude to have. There's no excuse for that. He knows what the problem is and how to fix it, yet won't. He says with all his targets, there's no way he can catch them all. Why not? He's an experienced pro, and there are nothing wrong with his hands, only his mindset. He hurts the team and has probably cost his teams losses because of this attitude. I can't imagine that Bowles, Gailey and who ever the WR coach is would be accepting of that attitude. The other is http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2016/10/nfl_trade_rumors_should_jets_trade_these_2_stars_t.html I'm not sure the title is accurate and that there are rumors actually circulating or if this is an idea that the author of the article came up with, but in the article it suggests trading B. Marshall to the Chiefs for a 2nd round pick and Richardson to the Colts for a 1st round pick. If the Jets could get an additional 1st and 2nd round pick, and this is going to be a good draft (I haven't read anything about the prospective quality of the 2017 draft), then I think they should run to make these trades. If there's a topflight QB prospect that the Jets like, they could wind up in position to get one of them without even trading up, but if not, then they have ammunition with which to move up. If there's not a QB they like or if they're content to go with Petty and Hack, then those additional high draft picks could go a LONG ways towards addressing their holes/needs on the OL, at CB, at OLB, ILB, WR or RB. With 5 picks in the first 3 rounds, they could come out of the draft with an OT, OLB, WR, CB and RB, or maybe an ILB or OG. That doesn't even take into consideration the cap savings the Jets would gain. They'd save $7.5 million on the 2017 cap with Marshall gone, and save $8,069,000 with Richardson. Cut Giacomini, Gilchrist and Revis as well, and the Jets would have around $32.5 million to play with in FA. For me the only question is whether they could get that much for either. I think they certainly should for Richardson, but I'm not sure any team would give a 2nd round pick for a year or two rental of Marshall. Thoughts?
