Carr was hitting or try to hit on quick short throws all day. Given the game situation outside technique was the right call. Pursuit would be coming from inside and keeping the clock moving was the objective. had the raiders been hiiting over the top i think the coverage would have been different.
You lost me in the first sentence. The point is not where the line of scrimmage is, it is where the receiver is headed as the play developed.
"You lost me in the first sentance" is a cop-out for not being able to reply to the rest of the post.
No it isn't. You begin your argument by saying that the line of scrimmage should determine where the db goes to defend a possible pass to the man he is covering. The original point here was the assertion that Walls was trying to guard the sideline to prevent the receiver from going out of bounds to stop the clock. My response was that a TD stops the clock, meaning that if you allow the inside pass into the end zone, that is a worse result than having the receiver go out of bounds before reaching the end zone. Where the line of scrimmage was is not determinative.
Rather be a "homer" then a moron that knows absolutely nothing about football. At least I pay attention to what's in front of me.
It's not determinative, but it does play a role considering if the LoS is far from the endzone it determines what kind of pass would be required to get the ball to the endzone. The point is that Carr threw a fade to James Jones, which Walls was in proper position to defend. Walls had good coverage to defend a fade or comeback route, but not a post route which was accounted for by safety help. I just don't understand how you can say he was in poor position when he tipped the ball without incurring a PI call. Have you seen fade routes score TD's? It happens when the CB has inside coverage and the QB drops the ball in on the outside of the WR allowing him to use his body to shield the DB from making a play.
flajetfan "likes" this??? AYFKM? I should put both you homers on ignore. As for being a moron, I am far more intelligent than you. Nice style of argument. I mean really, flajetfan "likes" 101 calling me a moron. Well, I guess I know where you are coming from, fla.
Best part is he refuses to reply to a valid argument and starts calling people out for "likes". Debates with Blocker are always good for a laugh.
It's probably because everytime someone comes at you with a valid point in terms of X's and O's of football, football technique, statistics or money figures you call everyone a free agent home punch your time card and leave the thread. Someone with a differing point of view that happens to look at something in a positive light is not incorrect without a doubt because you say so. You're just about the only guy on the board that thinks Walls was in terrible position and it wasn't just a Top 10 play by James Jones. This most likely has to do with the fact that you believe Idzik messed up the cornerback position and when the secondary plays well it doesn't fit into your predictions or previous statements that we're going to get picked apart by quarterbacks regardless of who they are.
Carr completed a TD pass, but imo he did not locate his pass very well. He made the play tougher for his receiver than he needed to. The pass should have been thrown to a point NOT so close to the out of bounds line in the end zone, but more out in front of Jones. It was the location of the ball that allowed Walls to get a hand on it. In watching the play Jones pretty much ran paralllel to the sideline and was too far from the safety for Walls to get help. If Walls was inside of Jones and Carr threw the ball even a foot more toward the sidelines, Jones would have gone out of bounds catching the ball. In any event the original point on guarding the sidelines to keep the Raiders from stopping the clock has been lost here. As I said a TD stops the clock as well, and is a worse result. And I saw what you did there expecting me to respond to this post in a certain period of time. I was at lunch, ftr.
Just remember about message board allies, one day your ally is going to say something stupid that you don't agree with, and then you are either going to have to stab him in the back - how disloyal - or not say anything, which is without honor. It is fair of me to point out the douchiness of flajetfan liking you calling me a moron. Not surprising that you would disagree. What would you think if I "liked" someone calling you a moron?
huh? whether walls was outside of jones or inside of him or wearing him like a freakin glove theres not a chance Jones catches the ball on that play in a situation where the clock will still run... BB you losing your mind? Walls ain't Revis, I don't think anyone is making that claim. He's a scrub that has proven to be serviceable. Why dwell on such a play that obviously was a good catch by the receiver. Do you watch football outside of the Jets? Corners, good corners are getting beat like a drum game after game. Darrin Freakin Walls lets up a practically meaningless TD on a great play by the receiver anyway you look at it and you choose to dwell on it?
First of all posting here is not about counting numbers of people who agree or disagree with something. You totally display ignorance about the purpose of a message board by saying that, but it is in keeping with your attempt to make others stop posting negative things about the FO by calling people names. You don't want dissent from your POV here. It is as plain as day. As I posted elsewhere, outside of Jet FO Homerland where you live, it is the most common criticism of the organization by those outside of it that they left the Cb roster without enough talent. But go ahead and attack me for thinking that as if I am being negative for the sake of being negative. As far as you and ignore aer concerned, I think that pretty much covers it. The irony is I wanted to talk about some positives like Coples and Ivory, but have wasted my time here responding to your personal attacks. Have a nice day.
You're being ultra sensitive if you think that's a personal attack based on the fact that your point about the corners was dispelled at least against the Raiders yet you continue to argue about Walls' poor play and I called you out on it. I also don't see where I called you any sort of name either for the record. You're right it's not about who agrees with you and who doesn't. But when you're in the minority of something that there's game tape on and everyone including analysts agreed that it was an amazing play it's tough to continue to defend your point to try and make Idzik look mad cause you're not a "FO homer." It's just silly.
