Well, except for the 80 reception/1289 yard/16 TD season in 2007. They're really good players, they've both more or less stayed out of trouble for a year, and they're going to get big offers from somebody else. We're not getting them for 10 million combined, sorry.
You mean move his salary from say 14.8 this year to 9.8 and give him a guarnteed 5.2 million in 2012 or something? Sure. But I'm not sure his agent is going to concede that he's not a 14.8 million player now.
Edwards may be more reliable, but Holmes is the type of player that doesn't come around often in terms of pure playmaking ability. I got to go with Holmes.
2007. That's my point. No one is paying for Potential. The real question missing here...is what is the actual market (Teams with a need, a QB and room). Neither one of these guys is getting more than 6 a year from anyone. At the end of the day, when you get above 6 you're generally talking elite production and potential, not potential alone.... After that, you factor in problems....the desire to win, playing with an ascendant elite QB and age.....you're looking at favorable deals... Let's not forget...Braylon looks to have banked close to 25 mil, he's likely to be flexible to a degree. Holmes has made very little to this point and will likely be the long term signing which means low Cap dollars now, with a balloon at the end. This looks like Holmes for 5 or 6, and Edwards for 3 with an option. And at the end of the day...both should come in for less than 12. (10,12,14 maybe anticipating a rise in the cap)
I see them equal in terms of playmaking ability. The difference is in the TYPE of play. Edwards stretches the D, which helps your running game. Holmes is Cotchery on steroids. (Can catch it close and explode, where JCO does not run away from a whole team) Edwards is more valuable because of his effect on an every down basis. At the end of the day...I'd cut Cotchery and go with a rookie or Pat Turner, who should be able to catch the 5 yard slant inside. You'd save half a mill this year and 2+ next year.
You're smoking crack. Find me one source anywhere in the world that predicts Edwards at 3 million or Holmes at 5-6. Just one.
It's not my fault I can't figure out your incoherent ramblings. Your post repeatedly talked about 6 million a year, not about length of contract.
Incoherent? 3 with an option equates to millions to you? Change your frickin name. Neither half is accurate.
"Both should come in under twelve" immediately after it and "neither of these guys are getting more than 6 million" before it. Both suggest you're talking dollars, not years. Just because it's clear in your head doesn't mean it's clear on the screen.
Yes and no. In the early years the salary matters quite a bit. The guaranteed money can also matter if you have cash flow problems (like I suspect the Jets did given their strangeness about fully guaranteeing the Mangold/Brick contracts).
The guaranteed money makes it harder to get rid of guys. Both guys have had issues(3 if you add in cro), if 2 years down the line Holmes has another problem we can cut him w/ less penalty than if we gave him huge guaranteed money.
