The Kellen Clemens Interception Count Down

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  1. JohnnyJohnson

    JohnnyJohnson Banned

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    Not so much. If Clemens can get it done, then let him be the starter.

    The thread is more about how it doesn't look like he's going to be. Of course, it's not definitive, but hell....there ain't anything else to rant about! :up:
     
  2. LAJet

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    Agree 100% - KC needs to prove in pre-season that he can keep us competitive and win for us. If he really flames out during the first 3 games or Sanchez completely surprises with extraordinary command then the change needs to be made. All beign equal KC gets the nod to start because of experience. BTW. That's why I was hoping to have our offensive line for a few plays. Harder to pass judment when KC/MS will start with a new Center and DT. Timing will be an issue.
     
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    Yet another excuse for KC. Though, Sanchez will have the same handicap.
     
  4. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    He can't be the starter without a new contract before the season starts and nobody sees that happening. It would make no sense at all. At most he might start a game or two and even that is a leap.
     
  5. WhiteShoeWillis

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    Why can't he be the starter without a new contract before the season starts? That doesn't make sense.
     
  6. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Ok, try this on. Let's say by some grace of God Clemens starts and takes the Jets to the superbowl. (I realize that's a long shot but let's just say). At the end of the year the Jets could never afford to keep him. Even if they could he would never stay knowing the Jets have 50 million dollars invested in Sanchez. Besides that he could go just about anywhere he wanted. It would be a PR nightmare for the Jets that they might never recover from..at least not for a long time.

    So, all the talk about an open competition sounds nice but I doubt it has been open for even a second.
     
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    I think you need to be sedated.....bound up.....and thrown into a padded room.
     
  8. WhiteShoeWillis

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    I agree it would be nice to have a one year extension in case he wins the job and does well, but that is not preventing him from being the starter. I believe he will be an RFA anyway, so if he does well we will be compensated.
     
  9. kbgreen

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    I'm all for options, success by Clemens would be good for the jets because it would give Sanchez time to develop and as a RFA (i think he is RFA) when he leaves we would get extra picks back for him.
     
  10. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    And I think that is about the only reply you could possibly make. Was it over your head?
     
  11. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Obviously, we will know in two weeks if Ryan keeps to his schedule of naming the starter in week 3 of the preseason.
     
  12. WhiteShoeWillis

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    Regardless of who is the starter it will have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Clemens doesn't have a new contract.
     
  13. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    If this is still accurate he won't be.

    "A player who has 3 years of experience is eligible for restricted free agency, whereby his current team has the chance to retain rights to this player by matching the highest offer any other NFL franchise might make to that player."

    "A player who has 4 or more years of experience is eligible for unrestricted free agency, whereby his current team has no guaranteed right to match outside offers to that player. This means that players in this category have unlimited rights to negotiate any terms with any team."

    But it is Wikipedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League#Restricted_free_agent
     
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    That's awfully misleading given the fact that you're only referring to a Pro Bowl appearance in the same year as the Super Bowl and comparing a voting process between high and low profile positions. CBs don't get the same kind of immediate attention necessary for Pro Bowl voting, so it tends to be a poor indicator of success at the position. A QB can make the Pro Bowl simply by appearing on a solid team. Look at Brad Johnson, who made the Pro Bowl by leading Tampa in only 13 of their games to the 15th best passing offense in the league. CBs, on the other hand, are largely voted in on name recognition, and only after several solid seasons.

    Chris McAlister has been to the Pro Bowl 3 times, was an All Pro once, and was a starter on that 2000 Ravens team. He's not a solid corner? Ronde Barber of the 2002 Bucs? The guy's only been to 5 Pro Bowls and has been an All Pro 3 times. In fact, the ONLY teams over the last decade without a multiple-Pro Bowl corner were the Colts (terrible D) and the Steelers.
     
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    ^^ it depends on whether or not it's an uncapped year.
     
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    That's what I was going to say. I will add the collective barganing agreement is up for review so we really don't know how it will effect free agents from his class.
     
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    He just threw 10 more and it only took 8 pass attempts to do it!
     
  18. WhiteShoeWillis

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    Time for a new avatar.
     
  19. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Yes, all hell will break loose if they don't have a new agreement. I think with the economy being what it is they will. If not you could see a lockout and I don't think anybody wants to see the ramifications of that.
     
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    I say Sanchez is going in Friday after Clemens throws his second INT in the first 5 min.......
     

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