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  1. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Is it really that much though? The Browns had the most 4th down attempts last year at 44. The Lions had 33. This year the league leading team has 19 about half way through the year. Unless I’m missing something on the numbers below.

    And that includes the ridiculous ones teams go for down 10 with 3 mins left and it’s 4th and 17 on their own 40.

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team...iscellaneous/sort/fourthDownAttempts/dir/desc
     
  2. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    This looks at instances where teams decided to go for it on 4th down. I'm talking about all 4th downs where the decision to go or not is debatable, as defined by win probability moving 5% or less based on going vs. kicking.

    Source is this page:

    https://www.nfl4th.com/articles/4th-down-research.html
     
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  3. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Here's actual numbers... something Glenn said he was going to do and by all means is starting to do after a rough start:

    https://www.footballdb.com/statistics/penalties.html

    16th in penalties, 16th in penalty yardage. Still 8th in pre-snap penalties but there's marked improvement. We're actually now in the red in terms of penalty yards for vs. penalty yards against. Low bar, but I'd rather it start to get fixed slowly than not at all.
     
  4. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    got off to a bad start with the Buffalo game, but yeah less penalties the last few weeks. Quincy Williams being out has helped that too though.
     
  5. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    That's because there's no way to factor in emotion. I didn't like the early fourth down call but could easily shrug it off that early in the game. My much larger problem was the play called. It looked like it was a problem for Glenn as well.
     

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