This comes down to being cheap in FA

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  1. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    i didnt say they didnt throw at all, they just didnt require owens having a big game. they did play without their # 2 you do realize? continue your samuel /revis argument if you will.
     
  2. Attackett

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    We absolutely do not. First of all we don't have a healthy productive Chad and Clemens just started his fourth game and at this point is not the real deal so saying if we did have a great QB just kills your argument already. Clemens did play terribly yesterday but the problems yesterday are far more than the play of the young QB. The Wrs are a joke without Coles and the OL is atrocious with no running game. Yesterday was about as bad an offensive showing as I have seen from the Jets ever. The D needs a major upgrade in talent too.

    I agree the Cowboys aren't a great team the level of NE but they are far superior to the Jets in every aspect of the game.
     
  3. nyjunc

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    The WRs are fine even w/o Coles, we just need clemens to be more accurate instead of throwing the ball all over the place. No running game yesterday had more to do w/ no passing game. We do need to upgrade on the OL but we have the skill guys on offense to be pretty good.

    Who did you want us to get in FA that would have helped?
     
  4. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    The WRs are fine without Coles? Have you ever seen the amount of drops as you have seen from these WRs this year?

    This isn't about what FAs haven't been brought in to this point. The team is in full rebuilding mode. I'm pleased with the talent the FO has brought in so far, they need to bring in alot more though. It's gonna take time to get enough talent to compete at the highest level, definetely more than one offseason.
     
  5. Miamipuck

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    Here is what you said:

    So again I defer to your pointed analysis. The Cowboys ran it down our throats, did not have to throw as much and the real 81 did not run routes yesterday. Thanks it was a breathtaking analysis.

    Only thing being that without a #2 wouldn't TO be more important? If they ran it down our throats how come Dallas had as many pass attempts against the Jets.

    Like I said sorry for being so "nieve". It is hard to argue when someone has such a handle on the cold hard facts like you. :rolleyes:

    EDIT: If you want to make the argument that they can concentrate on TO more because there was no #2 please do not. Revis was man up on TO for basically the entire game and got beat once. I am done with arguing as I got better things to do with my time then waste it on this.
     
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  6. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    look you watched the game, so did i. i also watched the pats/boys game, i'm assuming you did to. using the games as reasoning to believe revis and samuel are equal is not proof enough for anyone except yourself. reason however you need to continue believing as you will. truth is revis is not equal to samuel no matter how you spin it doctor.
     
  7. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    please..... they had rhodes and the other safety shading him all day, what game did you watch? how many players are we away from the superbowl again?
     
  8. Miamipuck

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    Please you obviously did not watch the game. If you did, you would have noticed that all of TO's catches were man up with Revis. Wow how can a professional football analyst such as yourself miss something so out in the open?

    Oh yeah the interception that Rhodes made on a pass attempt to TO which you are going to use as an example as me being wrong, who was Rhodes covering for? Revis?

    The other safety Elam was covering Witten pretty much all game. Then again a professional analyst such as yourself probably saw that. :rolleyes:
     
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    Funny I compared the stats of a HOF WR against 2 CB's and did not even compare them (the CB's) directly. Revis playing behind a mediocre at best DL had the same stats as one of the most highly regarded CB's did playing in front of the best DL in all of football. One is a stud the other is not, I found that hypocritical and pointed it out. Show me where I said Revis was better than Samuel. Please quote me directly on that.

    In relation to this Red Herring circle jerk: Prove me wrong genius. Go do some research. Find out the stats of Wr's they have both covered and see if there is a huge difference. A crackerjack NFL analyst like yourself should enjoy that.
     
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  10. RedWhiteBlue&Green

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    Calling Woody "cheap" is a joke! Was it not Woody who said he would put up his own money to bring the Jets to NY? Our owner is certainly not cheap. If the NFL were like MLB, I have no doubt Woody would be more like Steinbrenner.
     
  11. johnnysd

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    WTF? Ego ridden TO congratualted Revis on the way he played him yesterday. He was in single coverage on TO all game and basically shut him down. He is a sure tackler and getting better and better in coverage each week. His only real knock is that he is the poster child for the hands of stone cornerback. But he was an awesome pick. The third and fourth rounds this year were horrible. The trade ups were a great move by Tanny. We got two futute pro-bowlers in Harris and Revis. What the hell more could we want?
     
  12. HardHitta

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    I Honestly think mangini and tannaenbaum are pretty good at drafting players i mean we needed alot of players and we traded them all away for basically 2 players but look how the players are performing. Revis basically shut down T.O. except for 1 play and David Harris is gonna be a beast in our defnese for years but next draft we trade for more i think and build on the draft but we "MUST" not be cheap in free-agency wich woody usaully is and sign 2-3 playmakers.
     
  13. VickBlows

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    This comes down to having a completely incompetent gum chewing jack ass for a head coach who is too arrogant to recognize that he sucks monkey balls.
     
  14. hazmat

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    I'm sure this is what you were saying last year. Do you just listen to the other delusional jets fans and agree with whatever garbage they are saying?
     
  15. VickBlows

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    Yeah - that's exactly what I do dildo. I actually have to listen to them in these forums since I can?t read.

    For the record ? I was completely against hiring a ball boy with no experience and was one of the pricks that pointed out that we beat no one last year. Beating NE in the mud didn?t do much for me at all ? especially since they completely destroyed us two other times.
     
  16. Jet Blue

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    Actually They weren't cheap on Kendall at all - They gave him his contract...


    it's as if you bought a new Mercedes - Financed it and your monthy due is $450.00.. then after 1 year they send a new bill for $550.00 / month.... "umm, yeah remember we winked and said it goes up after 1 year"

    WTF!!!!!!!! Are you kidding me!!!!

    Would you be "Cheap" if you gave the car back and got a lawyer or would you just pay the extra money cuz, well, it's a Mercedes...

    Pete Kendall is a Blowhard that took advantage of the system and tried to play the Jets in the media.....

    Glad they stood their ground otherewise every player should line up for more $$$$$$ Starting with Cotchery....
     
  17. hazmat

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    So what would you like? Do you want Mike Tice? Do you want a short term fix? You do realize the best organizations in the league were built through the draft over 4 or 5 years and then sustained by using the draft and cheap free agent signings? You are aware that our talent level is multiple levels below the Cowboys and Patriots?

    So would you prefer the quick fix, bring in a retread head coach, overspend on the top free agents, maybe make a run at it and then go into cap hell? Or would you prefer 3 or 4 years of drafting, developing , signing cheap free agents and building the foundation of a team that can compete for 10 years?

    Sometimes you have to take a chance on a young head coach who may not have the credentials. The Steelers did it with Cowher and Tomlin. Did Mangini get his coaching job a year or two early? Probably. If Belichick thought he couldn't coach don't you think he would have thrown him party when he left? I think he is learning on the job and I do think that Mangini and Tannenbaum overrated the lines going into this season but if the first time a GM/coach made a mistake they were fired no one would have a job.
     
  18. VickBlows

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    Never asked for anything more than growth in this team and for ManStupid to show that he is worthy of being a coach in the NFL. Instead ? I?ve seen this team regress farther than I can ever remember and a gum chewing retard on the sideline with the confused look of a complete dipshit on his face.

    Regardless of who you are ? a 2 ? 14 or 3 ? 13 season is just the beginning of the end.
     
  19. hazmat

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    Are you jealous of Mangini? Did you want the job? I can't see where your blind hatred is coming from.
     
  20. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    2-9 is where his hatred is coming from.

    Are you blind or stupid?
     

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