Who Replaces D Davis?

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  1. TurkJetFan

    TurkJetFan Well-Known Member

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    theres a good chance D. Davis goes to Buffao and the Bills let Nigel Bradham walk. I'd have no problem picking up Bradham. He's a good LB just doesn't fit what Rex does.
     
  2. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    good analysis
     
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  3. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    I really thought DD was going to have a big year for the Jets. He didn't have a bad year but with that secondary and that DL I think he could of made more/better plays. He didn't get many turnovers and was kinda a weak link on the D core.

    Basically replacing DD comes down to 3 options. FA signing, draft or upgrade within.

    It's a pretty deep FA pool for ILB and maybe we could get some value with a Sean Weatherspoon.

    In the draft there are a few players but they would have to be the BPA in Macs draft strategy.

    Upgrading within is pretty thin.
     
  4. Truth4U2

    Truth4U2 Well-Known Member

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    Huh?!?! Why would Mac let one of his bright young stars get away??? Maybe he hasn't been mentioned because it's considered obvious that he's coming back? :oops:
    ...I mean, it's not like DD would demand a huge salary since he's still a rising star and hasn't reached his height yet.
     
  5. NCJetsfan

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    Rising star? LOL He's pretty awful. He's a high character type and fast, and that's about it. In spite of his speed, he's clueless in coverage. He still takes bad angles in pursuing runners and is not a great tackler, either. He wouldn't demand a huge salary because he knows he wouldn't get it. He's bad.
     
  6. Truth4U2

    Truth4U2 Well-Known Member

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    I think he's probably somewhere between where you and I put him. He's still got all the talent to become a star, but he's probably not as good just yet as I suggested. You're right I prob overrated him a bit. But he's still very young and has the potential to blossom into a star, imo. You know I actually think our DC Rodgers didn't do a good enough job last year with all the talent we had. No indication Bowles is considering replacing him, but I think he should. Of course Bowles knows D better than I do, so.
     
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  7. SOJAZ

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    totally agree... lets move on.
     
  8. MexicanJet

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    A ham sandwich is a better option than Demario Davis.. He was a typical Rex hype-guy. Good riddance. As old as Henderson is, he is absolutely an upgrade. But we need LB help, no doubt.
     
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  9. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Davis is young, but he's had four years and shown little improvement. It's time to move on.
     
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    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know how someone so fast constantly is never in plays. Dude has no vision. No play recognizing skills.
     
  11. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    No instincts.

    Good athlete, good guy, not what we were hoping for however.

    His 'Star' turned out to be a dud and fizzled out. We've seen enough
     
  12. b.reyes16

    b.reyes16 Well-Known Member

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    What in the hell are you talking about? Davis has been good awful. Henderson was 3x the player at an advanced age

    Edit: More advanced* I should say. He's not old. He could definitely hold the fort until we groom a decent replacement. Taiwan Jones example, who's playing style is very similar to Davis Harris
     
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  13. BleedGreen4ever

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    Shea McClellin from the Bears is a name to watch. Selected in the first round a few years back and has found his spot as an inside linebacker in a 3-4. His production has gone up every year and is still relatively young. Was somewhat of a work out warrior at the combine which propelled his draft stock and hasn't lived up to his first round prowess but could compete with Henderson (who I would like to re-sign) for the spot next to Harris in the middle of our defense.
     
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    I certainly can't even fathom where this theory came or originated from. Since when do so called great defenses only apply to the other half of the starting 11? OK, your entitled to your opinion but, the fact remains that the heart of the Jets defense is the DL. According to this statement, if the Jets were to take the risk of not resigning key players like Mo and Harrisson, then they would have the unenviable task of trying to make up for the loss in talent by filling the void at LB? Glad your not the GM, lol.

    You can pretty much bet the Jets will use the franchise tag on one the 2 DLs.. all IMO, of course
     
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  15. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    It all makes sense. You're too busy in church that you're unable to catch most of the Jets games. I'm sure Christ appreciates your commitment but we do not appreciate your blind statements such as this one.
     
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  16. NCJetsfan

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    It comes from the truth of how the 3-4 D alignment is supposed to work and from common sense. You obviously don't understand the 3-4 D alignment. Granted, Bowles uses different fronts, but the 3-4 is still our base. In the 3-4 the main responsibility of the DL is to stop the run and tie up blockers. The LBers are supposed to be the playmakers. Yes, it certainly helps to have DL who can also pressure the QB and do more than just tie up blockers, but given the choice of having a great DL and mediocre LBs or mediocre DL and great LBers, I'll take the latter every time and beat your team every time.
     
  17. b.reyes16

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    Just to add here, some when is a linebacking corps more important than a strong defensive line? I guess you could argue that in a 3-4 to an extent, but I would never agree. Game is won in the trenches. Your linebackers aren't going to accomplish much of anything if your defensive line is getting blown off the ball every play.
     
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  18. NCJetsfan

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    It's ALWAYS been more important in the 3-4 alignment. In the traditional 3-4 alignment, none of the DL were considered great athletes/players. They were big and strong, would hold their ground, occupy blockers, and were pretty much responsible for only stopping the run. Even then, the LBs were the ones to make the tackles. The alignment has evolved and varied some, but the LBs are still more important than the DL. They supposedly have the size and speed to fill the gaps to stop the run, drop into coverage, and be quick enough to rush the QB and be successful. Rex's stupid bastardized version of the 3-4 took us away from that. He sought a great DL, mediocre LBs and wanted the DBs to be the ones to rush the QB.
     
  19. 101GangGreen101

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    You need to start looking past the 3-4 scheme and think about the big picture with this defense. The Jets aren't a traditional 3-4 team with Bowles. Mo is a great athlete, Sheldon is a great athlete, and Leonard Williams is a great athlete. Bowles will put them in a position to succeed AND be great. Our lineman rush the passer more than a traditional 3-4 lineman.

    Personnel and draft board will not be based on the 3-4 defense, I can promise you that.
     
  20. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I don't need to do any such thing. Our base D is still the 3-4. The very fact that Bowles and Mac want to add edge rushing speed, shows that I'm right and that even as good/great as our DL is, they aren't good enough/fast enough to successfully pressure opposing QBs consistently and at the level needed. We haven't won jack shit with them since they've been here. Only the OLBs (who can also play DE in a 4 man front) can supply the necessary pressure and make the plays vs the run and coverage over the middle. Harris sure isn't going to and Henderson's not much faster.

    I agree that Bowles will put them in a position to succeed as well as they can, but that's still not good enough. There are limits to what Bowles and they can do, even thought they do rush the QB more than traditional 3-4 linemen. The D was still created so that it functioned with great, speedy OLBs and to a lesser extent ILBs. That D will NEVER function to its full ability or have the success it can have and was meant to have, until we get those kinds of LBs.

    I know that you know the history and basics of the 3-4 D alignment, but some of the other posters need to do some reading. In your case, I think you get too caught up in the flexibility and different formations Bowles uses. The bottom line is that we need those speed LBs to make ANY alignment work to its best capability. If we ever want to have a dominant or truly elite D, then we have to get those LBs. If not, we'll always be just a very good D that can have some great days against some teams, but will fail miserably against others.
     

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