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  1. Turbocharged23

    Turbocharged23 Well-Known Member

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    Harvin is hurt again. He's explosive when on the field but I think we really need someone more durable at WR going into next year.
     
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    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I love Harvin's talent and his flexibility, but he definitely seems injury prone.
     
  3. kevmvp

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    If we have a shot to grab Amari Cooper i'd be all over him.

    Wouldnt be against bringing Harvin back, all depends where we finish I guess. With Kerley on the roster Harvin is either going to be a starter for us or playing somewhere else next year.
     
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  4. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    I really want Cooper but don't think we'd take him at 3 or 4 overall.
     
  5. JetsFan

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    Right now the Jets are paying $22.5M annually for Harvin, Decker and Kerley. One of the most expensive trios in the NFL yet the production of the 3 is one of the worst in the NFL for a teams top 3 WRs. To say the deals were horrible is an understatement and good reason Idzik should be fired.

    Draft Cooper and cut Harvin. It would save $6.5 M.

    Cut Harvin ASAP, if he is on the roster next season the 6th round pick Idzik gave for his one year of service becomes a 5th or even 4th round pick. Bad enough we paid $6M and a 6th round pick so he could help us win one crappy game in a shitty season we would have been better to lose and get the #1 pick..

    Since Kerley and Decker are on newer deals we are stuck for at least next 2 seasons. Thank you Idzid, you no talent dipshit.
     
  6. Jets4eva9011

    Jets4eva9011 Well-Known Member

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    If he has AJ Green/Julio Jones type ability (I feel like his floor is Roddy White), then you absolutely take him at #3/#4. Enough is enough with neglecting offensive skill players.
     
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  7. kevmvp

    kevmvp Well-Known Member

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    It's the most annoying things this organization has done over recent years
     
  8. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    I honestly like our core... we just need a coaching staff that can utilize it. Only way i'm yelling for cooper is if percy leaves, and both mariota and winston are off the board.
     
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  9. James Hasty

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    It would be nice to keep Percy Harvin but I could think of better uses for $10 mil per year of cap space. I am not sure how much we should pay him but if he does not agree to a pay cut we should cut him loose. Since he has been a solid citizen off the field for us we might even get something in exchange for him.

    The practical question is whether we can keep our fourth round pick at this point. Does anyone know what the trade deal stated regarding which pick we have to give up?
     
  10. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    We need to stack this offense, we've been neglecting this side of the ball far too long.
    QB or no QB, we need to get a STUD WR and that's Cooper if both QB's are gone.

    Obviously the secondary and O-line need attention but we need to put the emphasis on skill positions.
     
  11. Zombies

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    Harvin/Cooper/Decker/Kerley would be an elite group, I just think it would be too much investment in one position even if Harvin did take a sweetheart deal. Hard to say what we'll do. I'm much more negative about the Kerley contract than I am about the Harvin trade.
     
  12. Turbocharged23

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    My understanding is that if he is on the roster at the start of the 2015 season, it goes from a sixth to a fourth round pick for this upcoming draft. My guess is that means if he is on the roster as of Feb / march.

    My problem isn't his talent...'I look at the value of him spread over 75 percent of the games played max since he doesn't look like he can play a full season (unlike Ivory). We can likely save 6-7mm plus get a guy like Kevin White or DGB early in the second who is less injury prone.
     
  13. Imagesrdecieving

    Imagesrdecieving Well-Known Member

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    Might it be better to not restructure Harvin's deal? Yeah he makes a lot of money but assuming this is another rebuilding year and we don't go a big FA spending spree we should have the cap space to carry his contract. It also leaves us in the position to cut bait whenever we see fit without any cap ramifications.

    I think that might be a better scenario than giving him guaranteed dollars over the next 2+seasons.
     
  14. Jets4eva9011

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    You're really going to complain about investing too much in a position that's hindered us for a while? Lol. Wouldn't mind Cooper/Decker/Harvin/Kerley at all, then add in Amaro at TE.
     
  15. Ozymandias

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    He has to restructure, plain and simple. What he has done isn't worth the 11M he's owed next year. If he doesn't restructure, cut him and draft Cooper. Decker and Kerley as 1 & 2 won't cut it.
     
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    Completely agree!! You mean SloDecker and SmallDecker won't cut it?
     
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    Kerley hasn't played well enough to get rid of Harvin. If anything Kerley has been a disappointment this year. Harvin will have no choice this offseason. He is in a lose-lose situation. He can either take a small pay cut and stay a Jet or be released and take a ginormous pay cut elsewhere. No one will come close to what he would get here by restructuring. With the new rookie scale I see no reason not to grab Amari Cooper. Unlike the old days we wouldn't be paying him that much. By the time his rookie deal would end Kerley, Decker, and Harvin would be nearing the end of their deals.
     
  18. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

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    It's actually more of a win-win. The Jets either pay him or he gets cut and decides where he gets to play, sure he will come at a cheaper rate but he'd probably be on a winning team.
     
  19. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Why does everyone who wants to get rid of Harvin (thereby saving $10 mil) want to find his replacement in the draft when we have $10 mil burning a hole in our pocket at the start of free agency? If we cut Harvin and spend six million on Maclin or twelve million on Demarius Thomas our cap situation would look pretty good compared to the status quo.

    That way we can address some of the gaping holes in our lineup with our draft picks instead of using them up on the hole that we create by cutting Harvin loose.
     
  20. Jetsfansince95

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    Sounds like Maclin will stay in Philly... DT is a dream though I doubt he comes here
     

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