Yankees won't bite on Rangers' hard sell

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  1. Pride

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    Enough with the numbers, I mean look at their roster. Joe Borowski is going to be asked to close out games in a wild card race?
     
  2. FirstTimeCaller

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    :lol: :lol: Good comeback. That pretty much summarizes the Yankee argument. We're the Yankees, they're not :lol: :lol:
     
  3. Pride

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    So you cut off the rational part of my answer and put the beginning. Im sorry if I would actually look at the teams roster and make up instead of :

    Well they have played .690 when its been 40 plus degrees and the sun is out and the Yanks have been .500 in days of low precipitation. The Indians are not on the level of any of the past 5 wildcard teams which won 95 plus games.
     
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  4. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    The last 5 years are out the door now. Usually, at this point in the season there are a few teams approaching or at .700. Then they start tailing off. This year there are two at .600. Who knows how many wins it will take this year but everybody ahead of the Yankees right now have been playing like crap and I'm sure you will agree with that. If they weren't the Yankees wouldn't have made up 8 games in the division and 10 in the the wc race in less then 2 months.
     
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  5. FirstTimeCaller

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    Here's some easy numbers for you... Borowski 29 saves 3rd best in the league. Would I trust him closing games? Yes.

    I know when it's laid out in black and white it's a little scary for you, but it's the reality of the hole they've dug themselves.

    :rofl2: :rofl2:
     
  6. Pride

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    Im glad your really excited over that 4.99 E-R-A from Borowski. You honestly have no concept of being out of it if you think on July 26th that a 4 game deficit in the loss is to big a hole. Think about it. 4 frickin games n you give the Yanks no shot b/c your hung up ove 95 wins. NEWS FLASH, the Indians probably wont get 95 wins
     
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    Don, put down the pipe and come back to us.

    2002
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20020726
    2003
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20030726
    2004
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20040726
    2005
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20050726
    2006
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20060726


    Nobody is playing .700 baseball this late in the season since 2001.

    Except of course if they were the Cubs too.
     
  8. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    That Yankees still have 14 relatively easy games left in this stretch while Cleveland and Seattle have harder schedules over that same period of time. We will also get Hughes and Giambi back in those two weeks which will make the team whole for the first and only time this year. Between all of that I like our chances of being in the wc lead when we meet Cleveland on August 10th.
     
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    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I said at or near. I see a .679, a .657, a couple of .640s in there. What I don't see is two teams leading both leagues with .604 and .600. Get on the reality train. Let me try and put it in terms you might understand. The best team in baseball right now is Boston. For them to reach 95 wins they have to play at a .557 clip for the rest of the season. They haven't been playing at that level for over a month now. So it's quite possible that the team with the best record in baseball at the end of the season won't even have 95 wins, much less the wildcard team.
     
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    Quick question, if the Yankees have no shot. Why should they trade Ian Kennedy and Joba Chamberlain for Mark Teixeira to solve their problems?
     
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    No doubt a 4.99 ERA is not too good but the arguement for him is much the same argument for the Yankees... since June he's been great. Half of his earned runs came in 2 games in April and May.
     
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    The Yanks have no shot concept makes no sense at this current moment. Imagine tomorrow afternoon if the Yanks are 3 games back in the loss. Are you honestly going to tell me 3 games is un-doable?
     
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    So when you said "Usually, at this point in the season there are a few teams approaching or at .700." what you were actually saying is..... over the past 5 years one team (.679) one year was around the .700 mark this late in the season. That's almost exactly the same thing, and oh so realistic.
     
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    This team has to play as good as the 1998 Yankees for the rest of the season... are you telling me that's doable? I'm giving you my opinion and standing firm... not talking about what's possible and what could happen in a perfect world, but not committing to anything, as you are.
     
  15. Don

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    Ok, so it hasn't been that high. It has never been as low as it is now either. As I edited my prior post before you responded I'll put it in here again.

    The best team in baseball right now is Boston. For them to reach 95 wins they have to play at a .557 clip for the rest of the season. They haven't been playing at that level for over a month now. So it's quite possible that the team with the best record in baseball at the end of the season won't even have 95 wins, much less the wildcard team.

    The only point I'm making is that this is like no other year and anything that has happened in prior years is out the window now.
     
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    You guys are talking about making the playoffs... I'm saying it doesn't happen with this team. I never said Tex solves their problems.
     
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    So now you have this team catching the Red sox too???
     
  18. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    How could you possible get that out of what I said? The point is 95 wins is not a magic number for the wc no matter what happened in the last 5 years. I don't think we will catch them but they have had monumental collapses in the past so anything is possible/.
     
  19. Pride

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    I dont understand how something which involves so much common sense is so hard to fathom. Award the Inidans the wild card b/c FirstTimeCaller gives no one in baseball a shot of catching them
     
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    Just as I pointed out... your argument basically boils down to anything is possible. By the way I'm going to fly my dog home from work tonight, because as we all know... anything is possible. :smile:

    What I'm saying is 95 wins is the magic number... I've even pushed it down to 93 for argument sake... if you guys disagree, so be it.
     

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